Saturday, March 14, 2020

Learning from history -- Joe Biden In 2020 versus Hillary Clinton In 2016

SUMMARY:
Bernie Sanders'
supporters were
passionate in 
2016, and again 
in 2020.

In 2016,
a surprising 
percentage
of Sanders'
primary voters
decided to vote
for Donald Trump
in the general 
election.

For 2016,
one reason 
for that was
that traditional
Democrats 
tried to keep 
Sanders away
from a nomination
( revealed in the
stolen DNC e-mails).

Well,
just before
the many 2020
"Super Tuesday" 
primaries, 
almost all 
of the other 
Democrats
suspiciously 
ganged up on 
Sanders again !

If Biden is 
nominated 
in 2020, will
a surprising 
percentage of
Sanders 
supporters
vote for 
Trump again,
giving us a
"deja vu all over again" ?
 ( Lawrence "Yogi" Berra )



DETAILS:
Hillary Clinton 
was expected
to beat Trump
in 2016.

I expected that too, 
especially after 
the October surprise
Billy Bush video !

Hillary did 
beat Trump 
in California 
by 4,269,978 
popular votes,
but lost the 
49 other states 
by 1,405,002 
popular votes

So,
in total, 
Hillary 
beat Trump 
by 2,864,974 
in the 
nationwide 
popular vote.


Democrats
in 2016 
primaries 
and caucuses 
preferred 
Hillary Clinton
over 
Bernie Sanders,
mainly because 
they thought 
she was
likely to win,
while Bernie 
would lose.

During the Democrat
primaries in 2016, 
polls showed that
Sander's fans were 
far more passionate 
about him, than fans
of Hillary Clinton
were passionate
about her.



Hillary Clinton has
presented over
one dozen reasons 
why she lost in 2016, 
none involving her own
lack of political skills 
and charisma.

Clinton has 
blamed her loss 
on Vladimir Putin, 
and on Sanders,
among others.

If Biden is nominated,
and also loses to Trump,
will he also blame Putin
and Sanders ?



Most Democrat 
National Committee
personnel claim 
Hillary lost 
in 2016 because
"her base" didn’t 
turn out to vote, 
while Trump’s did.

Clinton did appear 
to have a problem
getting ALL 
the voters 
who had voted 
for Barack Obama 
in 2012
( some Obama 
votes in 2012,
voted for Donald
Trump in 2016 ).

Those Obama-Trump 
voters could explain 
why Clinton lost.

But I disagree,
based on The 
Cooperative 
Congressional 
Election Study 
        ( CCES ) 
-- a massive 
election survey 
of around
50,000 people.

That 2017 study, 
was led by 
Brian Shaffner 
of Tufts and 
Harvard 
Universities, 
and reported 
that:

Vermont:
12% of Sanders'
primary voters, 
later voted 
for Donald Trump 
on Election Day.


Wisconsin:
9% of Sanders'
primary voters, 
later voted 
for Trump.

Those 51,317 
Sanders - Trump
voters were 
much larger than 
Trump’s 22,747-vote 
victory-margin 
over Hillary Clinton
in the general election. 



Michigan:
8% of Sanders' 
primary voters, 
later voted for Trump.

Those 47,915 
Sanders - Trump
voters were 
much larger than 
Trump’s 10,704-vote 
victory-margin 
over Hillary Clinton
in the general election. 



Pennsylvania:
16% of Sanders' 
primary voters, 
later voted
for Trump.

Those 117,101 
Sanders - Trump
voters were
larger than 
Trump’s 44,292-vote 
victory-margin 
over Hillary Clinton
in the general election. 

Sanders primary voters
realized the Democrat
National Committee 
fixed the rules to favor
a Clinton nomination.


It is believed that 
a higher percentage 
of Clinton supporters 
in 2016 would have 
voted for 
Bernie Sanders,
had he been nominated,
than the percentage 
of Sanders' supporters
who actually voted 
for Hillary Clinton 
in the 2016 election.

Meaning that 
Bernie Sanders
may have had
a better chance
of winning in 2016
than Hillary Clinton did.

I'm not sure of that.

There were also 
some Democrats 
back in 2016
unwilling to vote
for  "socialist" 
Bernie Sanders.

Now let's consider 
the 2020 election:
 I believe Democrats 
today are more likely
to accept a socialist
like Bernie Sanders, 
than they were in 2016.

Bernie Sanders 
has not changed,
from 2016 to 2020.

And his supporters
are still passionate.

How many of
Sanders' fans 
in 2020 will NOT
vote for Biden, 
if he gets the 
Democrat 
nomination ?

I don't have 
the answer,
but that's worth
thinking about !